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[数论] 关于连分数的余式问题

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hejoseph Post time 2019-9-6 17:39 |Read mode
设 $D>1$,记 $\sqrt D$ 的连分数为 $[a_0,a_1,\cdots,a_n,\cdots]$,以及 $r_j=[a_j,a_{j+1},\cdots]$,那么必定有 $r_j=\frac{\sqrt D+P_j}{Q_j}$,可以确定 $Q_j>0$,那么当 $j\geqslant 1$ 时 $P_j$ 必定是正的吗?

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 Author| hejoseph Post time 2019-9-9 13:47
$\sqrt D$ 的第 $k$($k\geq 1$)个渐近分数是 $p_k/q_k$,则 $P_k=(-1)^{k+1}(p_{k-1}p_{k-2}-Dq_{k-1}q_{k-2})$,$Q_k=(-1)^k(p_{k-1}^2-Dq_{k-1}^2)$,不过没找到 $P_k\leq 0$ 的例子。

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 Author| hejoseph Post time 2024-3-19 17:02

关于连分数的余式问题

本帖最后由 hejoseph 于 2024-3-19 17:23 编辑 设 $D$ 不是完全平方数,$D>1$,$\sqrt{D}$ 的连分数为 $[a_0,a_1,\dots,a_n,\dots]$,令 $r_j=[a_j,a_{j+1},\dots]$,那么必定有 $r_j=\dfrac{\sqrt{D}+P_j}{Q_j}$,可以确定 $Q_j>0$,那么当 $j\geqslant 1$ 时 $P_j$ 一定是正的吗?

$\sqrt{D}$ 的第 $k$($k\geqslant 1$)个渐近分数是 $\dfrac{p_k}{q_k}$,则 $P_k=(-1)^{k+1}(p_{k-1}p_{k-2}-Dq_{k-1}q_{k-2})$,$Q_k=(-1)^k(p_{k-1}^2-Dq_{k-1}^2)$,不过没找到 $P_k\leqslant 0$ 的例子。

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睡神 Post time 2024-3-22 22:12 From the mobile phone
本帖最后由 睡神 于 2024-3-24 11:39 编辑 还是算错了。。。

设$x_k=\dfrac{p_k}{q_k}$为$\sqrt D$的第$k$个渐近分数

易知,当$k$为奇数时,$x_k>\sqrt D$,且$x_k$单调递减;当$k$为偶数时,$x_k<\sqrt D$,且$x_k$单调递增

令$\varepsilon_k=|x_k-\sqrt D|$,​则$\varepsilon_k$单调递减

​1、当$k$为奇数时,

$x_kx_{k+1}  =(\sqrt D+\varepsilon_k)(\sqrt D-\varepsilon_{k+1})

=D+\sqrt D(\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1})-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}

>D+\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1}-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}$

(猜测:$\forall k\in N$,都有$\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1}-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}>0$)

(另外,可证得$\varepsilon_k+\varepsilon_{k+1}=\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}}$,不知道有没有用)

​2、当$k$为偶数时,
$x_kx_{k+1}=(\sqrt D-\varepsilon_k)(\sqrt D+\varepsilon_{k+1})=D-\sqrt D(\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1})-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}<D$

综上所述,$P_k=(-1)^{k-1}(p_kp_{k+1}-Dq_kq_{k+1})=(-1)^{k-1}q_kq_{k+1}(x_kx_{k+1}-D)>0$

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之前我做的时候也差不多做过这样的,但是就是差一些没做出来。  Post time 2024-3-25 15:06
是呀,那个误差明明就是几何级递减,但就是差那么一点点  Post time 2024-3-25 22:20
噢,刚搜了以下,原来何版你在19年已经发过一次贴,5年还没解决,估计不是我能解决的  Post time 2024-3-26 22:15
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睡神 Post time 2024-3-28 23:41
记录两个推导出来的结论:

1、$P_k+P_{k+1}=a_k\cdot Q_k$

2、$Q_k\cdot Q_{k+1}+P^2_{k+1}=D$
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睡神 Post time 2024-4-2 02:15 From the mobile phone
本帖最后由 睡神 于 2024-4-2 02:28 编辑 好像证出来了,先打个草稿,睡觉~

设$x_k=\dfrac{p_k}{q_k}$为$\sqrt D$的第$k$个渐近分数

易知,当$k$为奇数时,$x_k>\sqrt D$,且$x_k$单调递减;当$k$为偶数时,$x_k<\sqrt D$,且$x_k$单调递增

令$\varepsilon_k=|x_k-\sqrt D|$,​则$\varepsilon_k$单调递减,且$\varepsilon_k+\varepsilon_{k+1}=\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}}$

​1、当$k$为奇数时,

$x_kx_{k+1}=(\sqrt D+\varepsilon_k)(\sqrt D-\varepsilon_{k+1})=D+\sqrt D(\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1})-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}$

而$\varepsilon_k+\varepsilon_{k+1}<x_k-\dfrac{D}{x_k}=\sqrt D+\varepsilon_k-\dfrac{D}{\sqrt D+\varepsilon_k}$

$\Rightarrow  \varepsilon_{k+1}<\sqrt D-\dfrac{D}{\sqrt D+\varepsilon_k}=\dfrac{\sqrt D\varepsilon_k}{\sqrt D+\varepsilon_k}$

$\Rightarrow  \sqrt D\varepsilon_{k+1}+\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}<\sqrt D\varepsilon_k$

即$\sqrt D(\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1})-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}>0$成立

所以  $x_kx_{k+1}>D$

2、当$k$为偶数时,
$x_kx_{k+1}=(\sqrt D-\varepsilon_k)(\sqrt D+\varepsilon_{k+1})=D-\sqrt D(\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1})-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}<D$

综上所述,$P_k=(-1)^{k-1}(p_kp_{k+1}-Dq_kq_{k+1})=(-1)^{k-1}q_kq_{k+1}(x_kx_{k+1}-D)>0$

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还是错了一步!不想了,睡觉…  Post time 2024-4-2 02:24
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睡神 Post time 2024-4-2 16:11
本帖最后由 睡神 于 2024-4-2 16:56 编辑
睡神 发表于 2024-4-2 02:15
好像证出来了,先打个草稿,睡觉~

设$x_k=\dfrac{p_k}{q_k}$为$\sqrt D$的第$k$个渐近分数


$\varepsilon_k+\varepsilon_{k+1}<x_k-\dfrac{D}{x_k}$这一步未得证,化简时应该得到$p_k<q_{k+1}Q_{k+1}$,那会躺在床上,错想成$q_k<q_{k+1}Q_{k+1}$这个了

如何证明$p_k<q_{k+1}Q_{k+1}$?
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睡神 Post time 2024-4-6 18:05
本帖最后由 睡神 于 2024-4-6 21:44 编辑 好吧,决定重写...

由连分数的基本理论易知:

当$k$为奇数时,$x_k>\sqrt D$,且$x_k$单调递减;

当$k$为偶数时,$x_k<\sqrt D$,且$x_k$单调递增;

令$\varepsilon_k=|x_k-\sqrt D|$,​则$\varepsilon_k$单调递减

以上的理论就不在这证明了

证明:$\because |p_{k+1}q_k-p_kq_{k+1}|=1$

$\therefore |x_{k+1}-x_k|=|\dfrac{p_{k+1}}{q_{k+1}}-\dfrac{p_k}{q_k}|=\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}}$

$\therefore \varepsilon_k+\varepsilon_{k+1}=|(x_{k+1}-\sqrt D)+(\sqrt D-x_k)|=|x_{k+1}-x_k|=\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}}$

$\therefore \varepsilon_{k+1}=\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}}-\varepsilon_k$

$\because \sqrt D=\dfrac{r_{k+1}p_k+p_{k-1}}{r_{k+1}q_k+q_{k-1}}$

$\therefore \varepsilon_k=|\sqrt D-\dfrac{p_k}{q_k}|=\dfrac{1}{q_k(r_{k+1}q_k+q_{k-1})}=\dfrac{1}{q_k[(a_{k+1}+\dfrac{1}{r_{k+2}})q_k+q_{k-1}]}=\dfrac{1}{q_k(q_{k+1}+\dfrac{q_k}{r_{k+2}})}>\dfrac{1}{q_k(q_k+q_{k+1})}$

1、当$k$为奇数时,

$x_kx_{k+1}=(\sqrt D+\varepsilon_k)(\sqrt D-\varepsilon_{k+1})=D+\sqrt D(\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1})-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}$

$=D+(\dfrac{p_k}{q_k}-\varepsilon_k)(2\varepsilon_k-\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}})-\varepsilon_k(\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}}-\varepsilon_k)$

$=D-\varepsilon^2_k+\dfrac{2p_k}{q_k}\varepsilon_k-\dfrac{p_k}{q^2_kq_{k+1}}>D-\dfrac{1}{q^2_k(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}+\dfrac{2p_k}{q_k}\dfrac{1}{q_k(q_k+q_{k+1})}-\dfrac{p_k}{q^2_kq_{k+1}}$

$=D+\dfrac{-q_{k+1}+2p_kq_{k+1}(q_k+q_{k+1})-p_k(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}{q^2_kq_{k+1}(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}$

$=D+\dfrac{-q_{k+1}+p_kq^2_{k+1}-p_kq^2_k}{q^2_kq_{k+1}(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}\ge D+\dfrac{-q_{k+1}+p_k(q_k+1)q_{k+1}-p_kq^2_k}{q^2_kq_{k+1}(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}$

$=D+\dfrac{q_{k+1}(p_k-1)+p_kq_k(q_{k+1}-q_k)}{q^2_kq_{k+1}(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}\ge D$

2、当$k$为偶数时,

$x_kx_{k+1}=(\sqrt D-\varepsilon_k)(\sqrt D+\varepsilon_{k+1})=D-\sqrt D(\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1})-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}<D$

综上所述,$P_k=(-1)^{k+1}(p_{k-1}p_{k-2}-Dq_{k-1}q_{k-2})=(-1)^{k+1}q_{k-1}q_{k-2}(x_{k-1}x_{k-2}-D)>0$

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终于写完了,真TMD艰难!  Post time 2024-4-6 18:06
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睡神 Post time 2024-4-6 22:10
本帖最后由 睡神 于 2024-4-6 22:16 编辑
睡神 发表于 2024-3-22 22:12
还是算错了。。。

设$x_k=\dfrac{p_k}{q_k}$为$\sqrt D$的第$k$个渐近分数


也可以接2楼的,证明$\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1}-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}>0$

证明如下:

$\varepsilon_k+\varepsilon_{k+1}=\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}},\varepsilon_k>\dfrac{1}{q_k(q_k+q_{k+1})}$的证明如上楼,略

$\varepsilon_k-\varepsilon_{k+1}-\varepsilon_k\varepsilon_{k+1}=2\varepsilon_k-\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}}-\varepsilon_k(\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}}-\varepsilon_k)$

$=\varepsilon^2_k+\dfrac{2q_kq_{k+1}-1}{q_kq_{k+1}}\varepsilon_k-\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}}>\dfrac{1}{q^2_k(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}+\dfrac{2q_kq_{k+1}-1}{q^2_kq_{k+1}(q_k+q_{k+1})}-\dfrac{1}{q_kq_{k+1}}$

$=\dfrac{q_{k+1}+(2q_kq_{k+1}-1)(q_k+q_{k+1})-q_k(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}{q^2_kq_{k+1}(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}$

$=\dfrac{q_kq^2_{k+1}-q^3_k-q_k}{q^2_kq_{k+1}(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}\ge \dfrac{q_kq_{k+1}(q_k+1)-q^3_k-q_k}{q^2_kq_{k+1}(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}$

$=\dfrac{q^2_k(q_{k+1}-q_k)+q_k(q_{k+1}-1)}{q^2_kq_{k+1}(q_k+q_{k+1})^2}\ge 0$
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 Author| hejoseph Post time 2024-4-8 14:38
谢谢,看了没什么问题了。这类数论的问题对我来说还是不太熟悉。

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睡神 Post time 2024-4-8 21:12
hejoseph 发表于 2024-4-8 14:38
谢谢,看了没什么问题了。这类数论的问题对我来说还是不太熟悉。

连分数难,数论更难,我也不懂
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